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graham, final question, can chuck hagel become secretary of defense if he's the president's nomt knee? >> a lot of republicans asking hard questions, i don't think he's going to get many republican votes. i like chuck, but his positions, i didn't know all of them. are out of the mainstream and well to the left of the president. i think it will be a challenging nomination, the hearings will matter. >> if i were in the senate on the armed services committee, and he was nominated i would have some serious questions to ask him. >> i think senator engle will not be nominated or not be confirmed. the concede in the obama white house was these are republicans. on foreign policy, he's been way to the left of president obama. >>> former nebraska senator chuck hagel has been leaked not nominated leaked as a potential nominee for secretary of defense, and there was already a massive counter offensive against him. it does have more substance to it, than the attacks against susan rice. a fair amount of that substance consists of insinuations. the sides are forming, there's the chuck hagel defense
on his agenda. one being the next secretary of defense. did you expect to see chuck hagel of all people so embattled from both sides? >> well, yes, sort of. yourn, you know that john mccain hates the guy. you know, he -- and he didn't create a lot of friends toward the end of his time and throughout most of his time as a senator. because he didn't really tow the party line on policy. he broke with republicans on the iraq war. and so he oftentimes would give democrats a way of saying what they were doing was bipartisan and then had the sheen of the veblt of a guy like hagel so it's this guy that's been a thorn in their side the whole time. now here he is he might be elevated to secretary of defense. and you could see that's going to bother the same types of people that seem to be bothered by every other person that's floated by obama. and that's mccain and graham and those fellas. >> but we've heard about this mccain not liking or hating chuck hagel. what's that about? what's their history? from one maverick to another. >> exactly. there's only so much room in the senate for mavericks. y
citizen volunteers that would be summoned by their governors to the defense of the whole was preferable to standing federal military. a standing army had always been in the old world -- source of corruption of the authoritarianism of centralized power, dictators love standing armies because they got control of it they controlled the country. it was very much part of the early american experience that you did not want a standing army. one of the most important moments in george washington's life was when he resigned his commission and went back to mt. vernon because every -- almost every other commanding general in a struggle like this would have kept his army, declared himself regent or chancellor or dash king or president. and george iii is -- said to have remarked if washington actually resigns as commission and goes home would be the greatest manning to have lived and he was. so that -- the defense of the country then fell to smaller organizations. soing the second -- wording of the second amendment is, you know, the rights of -- militia well regulated militia being critical to deliv
on everybody and extra cuts on defense. you know he is a professor. he is a lecturer. i think he is accustomed to telling people what he wants them to know and then eliciting a certain response. in the house we have had bipartisan support to extend taxes, deal with a sequester, the things on harry reid's desk. we would like to see action from the president and the senate. >> congressman blackburn thank you very much. great to see you. we hope you have a very merry christmas. >> thank you. >>> this just into our newsroom. new video of an airstrike in syria. a report that dozens have been killed and many more injured in the attack by the government on a bakery in the town of halfaya. that town was recently taken over by rebels. >>> during the budget meeting, they say the u.s. needs to reexamine how the military plays a role in protecting our diplomats. at a time when our country is looming near fiscal cliff and see -- see questions station is around the bend how do you protect? he is a member of the armed services committee from california. congressman, thank you very much for joining us. >> goo
for the plat, dean torrance was never charged. when the trial began in february of 1964 the defense took the strategy of blaming the victims to dizzying new heights. >> it was keenan who devised their defense. >> every time i talked to a lawyer it was are you sure this is not a publicity stunt. everybody was sure it was a publicity stunt. that gave me the idea. >> all three had their own lawyers. john irwin's attorney was gladys root is, known for wearing outlandish hats to court. >> she was a piece of. she was. >> she claimed the whole thing was a hoax orchestrated by frank, jr. purely for publicity. in the trial transcript obtained by fox files root labeled the kidnapping an advertising scheme and planned contractual agreement. the sinatra family was outraged. >> i remember it mostly being oh he fended and stunned by -- offended and stunned by the lawyer gladys root. she knew that once you ring that bell it is rung. >> in his opening statement, keenan's lawyer also blamed sinatra saying that "the actions of frank sinatra, jr. are suspect of chicanery from start to finish. >> kidnapping
than enthusiastic about the haggle pick, of course, for secretary of defense. what's your reaction there especially after the susan rice fiasco with her nomination? >> i think you are right that there are some democrats who want to have a conversation about some pieces of senator haggle's record. that makes him interesting and good choice he once earned two purple hearts. is he a maverick. his whole career. >> laura: why is that a good thing necessarily? again i'm not trying to be difficult. winning two purple hearts is amazing and we celebrate his honor and service. that doesn't have anything to do with why is he a good choice now when both democrats and republicans seem to have real problems with him. seems odd way floating someone as secretary of defense. >> he has a military background. he has a senate background. he has a cost cutting background. he was a business background. administration background. he comes to the table an independent streak that makes him not part of the partisan bickering in washington that people are sick of. while it's perfectly conversation. mitch mcc
unemployment tax benefits for 2 million folks still unemployed. delay sequestration cuts for defense until later in the year. >> dave: john boehner on friday says he does not want to limit sequestration unless you also have equal spending cuts. there is no chance of finding an extra 500 billion in spending cuts. not as far as democrats stand. here is harry reid on where the senate democrats stand at the 11th hour. >> if we come up with something, it's not that easy, we are dealing with big numbers some of the stuff we do is very complicated. i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it took an extended period of time as you know waiting for us. everybody, whatever we come up with, is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it. some people like it less, but that's where we are. and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going to do the best we can for the caucuses that we have and country that's waiting for us to
was to keep a viable auto industry and keep people employed and worked beautifully, and a defense contractor. it's a miracle that we made money on some of them. >> we really didn't make money on them. i know they have the announcements out, you know, citigroup paid back and goldman paid back and remember how they made money? they rigged the system. they took interest rates to zero, and qe1, 2, 3 and 4, but that comes out-- that's like saying, i can make money if you just give me money and i can borrow at zero. absolutely rigged system. >> agree charlie and make money, and still made money. charlie, they still made money and we were not expect-- >> that's all-- >> and you're both right in your respective position, but gerri willis, to echo something charles said at the outside, we went from too big to fail to too many not to help and precedent is we'll do it again and again and again. >> they owe us 7 billion dollars and give us our 7 billion back. even if you're in favor of the gm bailout they put out a truck on the road that the hood latch doesn't work, that's being recalled. how many ways
democratic senator spoke up in susan rice's defense, not one. >> jon: we've got a lot to report on news watch of the including the newtown massacre. did a media agenda take over the coverage? everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. shareable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. hurry in for a droid incredible 4g lte by htc for $49.99. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? can i still ship a gift in time r christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas deliver
. the harshest effects of spending cuts could be modified in the first month or two of 2013. in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. tonight's question, who will the public blame if we go over the fiscal cliff? text a for democrats, text b for republicans to 622329. i'll bring you the results later in the show. >>> joining me now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland. welcome to the show. >> it's good to be with you. >> what do you make of the latest posturing. the house will they reconvene before january? they have a lot of stuff to do, so clearly they can't make it back to d.c. to do the people's busine
part of some last-second deal. hit the defense department. but the pentagon's real problem is not those cuts, but the ones that are going to be coming over the next decade. we talked to military contractors, top officials at the pentagon. they see a long period of downward decline. that after the war in afghanistan, there's going to be a period of austerity. they're calling it -- they have a term around the pentagon, a very graphic self-amputation as they cut back over the years. and this was one of the reasons that president obama had, at the top of his short list, the former republican senator, still a republican, chuck hagel of nebraska. he's somebody who's talked about the pentagon as being bloated, had very specific ideas about how to cut it. but mike, sam, the table, we're hearing that that trial balloon has been popped. that senator hagel has a possibility for secretary of defense, has really lost a lot of altitude. and what they discovered was, there's not a natural constituency for him. republicans, as you guys know, have fought with him over the years. he was against the war i
the incident at a news conference, the county prosecutor said it appears that all the officers acted in self-defense and were justified in returning fire. harris? >> harris: david lee miller in our newsroom tonight. thank you very much. new information now on an ambush that put firefighters in a deadly trap. police in upstate new york have arrested a woman in connection with that crime. investigators saying an ex-con named william spangler at the time set a fire on christmas eve. and when first responders got there, he started shooting at them. he killed two of them. wounded three other people before committing suicide. now, investigators are charging one of spangler's former neighbors with buying two guns for him. >> providing your own name when buying a firearm instead of the true owner's name is sometimes referred as acting as a straw purchaser. and that is exactly what today's complaint alleges. >> harris: spangler is a convicted felon, barred from owning buying himself weapons. investigators say the former neighbor bought a bush master ar 15 rifle like the one seen here and a 12 gauge shotgun f
shot was the armed guard at the door. so they're no defense against semiautomatic weapons and glocks and these magazines. >> reverend, what hope do you see for changing the gun culture in this country if the forecast is you're not going to get any republicans to do anything on assault weapons ban, you're not going to get them to do anything on the number of bullets put in a magazine and the availability of it all in closing the gun show loophole. i mean, these are the main things, main problems. what hope do you hold out for change in the culture? >> these republicans have been much too silent. they will not go on shows this week even to discuss it because they're trying to lead by fear, not lead by courage and not lead by hope. you know, right now we see the massacre at northern illinois university and virginia tech and aurora, and now of course in sandy hook. how painful it was to see those babies wiped out in that way. but the next level, these guns can wipe out airplanes and infrastructure. these are military assault weapons. and we're all less secure because of them. less secure
in spending cuts. more than half of that is to the defense budget. >> they say families may need austerity calculation before making big purchases. look at the money you have and the money you need in the future to decide if you need the next big picture. doug? >> doug: thank you, molly. residents of the webster new york neighborhood set ablaze christmas eve have been allowed to return back to their homes. they say exconflict william spangler set the fire as a trap to lure firefighters to their death before turning the gun on himself. four were struck with bull lels, two survived and are in stable condition. >>> somber christmas day in newtown, connecticut. volunteers took three-hour shift to ensure 26 candles stayed lit at candle light vigil. it was filled with snow covered teddy bears, flowers and toys. two tv news hosts have a little explaining to do on the topic of gun control. that's later in the grapevine. up next, is the federal government shirking duty when it comes to public input about regulation? can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male ann
of difference as well as the last line of defense. >> reporter: the debate over semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines has raged since the shooting at sandy hook. a gallup poll found 53% agreed increasing police presence in schools would be very effective. a third said somewhat effective, 12% said not effective and 42% said banning the sale of automatic weapons and nor an third, 36% said it would not be effective. feel free to weigh in on my page at rick levanthol over the debate of gun rights and greater restrictions continues. >> heather: rick, thank you. >> gregg: search for justice in the benghazi, libya terror attacks. a scathing report placing blame squarely for security failures. while sparking new debates we have much closer look at the issue. >> heather: the word no one wants to hear, deadlock, can president obama and lawmakers find a solution before the january 1st deadline. >> gregg: and remarkable recovery just in time for christmas. how a community came together to help the church devastated by hurricane sandy. >> describe the damage. >> it was absolutely devastation. t
the fiscal cliff some democrats because they would finally get the defense cuts that they have been clamoring for and it would actually serve their purposes. i dismiss that. >> to be fair, we have even had some republicans who have said that that they want. members of the tea party don't want to have anything to do with -- they want us to go into default. they want us to face these problems. howard dean on the democratic side saying, look, if we don't do it, we have got this other plan and he talks about the fiscal cliff to what alisyn was just saying. listen. >> as you know, i believe the country would be better off if would get another revenueiff. to be serious about balancing the budget and get defense cuts which the congress will never vote for otherwise. we will get some human services cuts which i don't like but we are in a deep hole and everybody is going to have to put somethinged in something. the truth the belief that millionaires or people who make more than $250,000, you tax them more that's going to solve the deficit problem that's just not so. i think it would be better for the
, but he cut the military and defense spending because he could get away with it. he did it quietly and he warned against the mill stare industrial complex, but quietly he was doing that all along as president or trying to. >> it seems your part of this crowd, we are going to see a revival of the eisenhower president. is that a model for future presidents? >> i hope so. it suits my taste. i think people will compromise who is not pounding away at an ideological point. >> evan thomas, the book is ike's bluff, the secret battle to save the world. he is an underwritten about president. you got it first. >> thank you, chuck. >> thank you, sir. top quality interview from chuck todd. 110 hours and counting now until the cliff deadline. the only thing that everyone can agree on is there is probably not going to be a deal. our gaggle will be here to break it down and the senate surprise we did not see coming. first, the white house soup of the day, chipotle beef. i have a pronunciation from my producer. everyone knows chipotle. that's a good soup. they serve it at the real chipotch chipot chipotle
and adds about what romney would do about president tested better, they claim, than bio spots or defenses of his personal record. in the end, obama beat romney by ten points on the question of which candidate is more like you? romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our nbc/"wall street journal" poll go into his convention with his personal rating under water, ended his campaign with a painful number, just 47% of voteri ins viewing him positive. the obama campaign bought ads early and were careful about where to buy the ads. in the last week the obama campaign paid $550 for a single ad in raleigh, north carolina. the romney campaign had to shell out $2,665 for the same spot. why? the obama campaign purchased it way ahead of time. romney bought it the week of. lesson two, the republican brand needs a hard look. the gop's favorable rating has been under water for two years. if you take that out, it's been nearly five years. just 36% of registered voters said they had a positive view of the republican party, 43% held a negative view. the democratic party was in positive territ
. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc. thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you, al. >> congressman, let me go to you first, this deal comes down to taxing the rich. how can they not realize this is what the country wants? >> i don't think that the republican leadership cares what the country wants. i think they care about what their biggest donors want and their big donors want to reorganize america so that -- because they believe that the rich don't have enough money and the poor have too much. so what we're hearing here is an expression of an et you logical idea that we need american society to be cost competitive with places like china. that means giving rich people even more money. and we're not going to standby. >> as i was listening to the president's statement, when he said that he appeal
because of the sequester and 9 defense spending, what you talked about on the show quite a bit. a big chunk comes from tax increases. little the end of the unemployment benefits of that been going on for a while, the payroll tax holiday and the alternative minimum tax which is going to grab more and more people. you will have less subsidies for lower income people who are unemployed today and higher tax on middle income americans. it's not great. none of us want tax increases but at the end of the day trillion dollars deficits are bad, too. trillion dollars deficits every year as far as the eye can see, that's a tax on our kids, our grandchildren, on people who have saved their whole lives and done the responsible things. trillion dollars deficits are a tax, too, and that's what we have to understand. >> it's not good leadership to pass the buck, especially on future generations. they don't deserve to pay for our problems ander responsibility. what do you think is the biggest problem with raising taxes on the wealthy? it's so easy for them to say raise the taxes on the rich, punish th
studies have not found concrete of torture's efficacy and a 2006 report from the national defense intelligence college found that the scientific community has never established the interrogation methods are effective means of obtaining reliable intelligence. .in contrast to the movie's narrative, a senate report found no evidence that enhanced interrogations played a significant role in the year's long intelligence operation which led to the discovery and killing of bin laden. now, even beyond the sight over the road to ben laden, i think there's a larger issue here. america has never fully reckoned with torture. the public was initially shocked by disclosures about waterboarding and torture at the abu ghraib prison. but there have been no prosecutions, no truth commissions and no meaningful accountability. president obama did run on restoring the rule of law to the fight against terrorist and al qaeda. but when the huffington post sam stiep asked him about torture prosecution, he expressed little interest in prosecution alleged war crimes. >> if there are clear instances of wrong
than twice as much as what the white house is currently asking for. it's got many, many more defense cuts than the administration has ever even considered. republicans hate it, symptom boelds, the come together plan. paul rooip, the big deficit guy, or so he says, he was on the simpson-bowles commission, and he voted against it, as did every other house republican on the commission. the white house saw no reason to embrace something that raised taxes so sky high and so the white house brought out something that was frankly to the right of simpson-bowles. their budget was to its right and they thought it had a better chance of passing. they thought it was a compromise. but the house republicans did not respond the same way. when they brought out the ryan budget, which was their budget alternative, they didn't compromise. they went way to the right. there was no xriemz compromise t all. that is fact number one. number two, in 2010 republicans won the midterm election. 2011 the white house agreed to a deal that was all spending tucu. it is the budget control act. it cuts spending by $1.
. the most fundamentally restructuring of defense spending in a generation or more. maybe that's worth resetting the baseline because let's face it. if they're in place and then we come back to negotiations, that's the reality. >> right. >> that's the new baseline. that may be a healthier place to start. >> i wish we didn't have to go through the pain to get there. >> rachel, what can we expect next from the president at this point? >> we can expect him to stick with what he said already which is what he wants something done before the new year. and he made clear that we're looking at a dramatically down scaled deal if we get one at all. he said he would like to see the bigger plan but right before going to hawaii he said he knows that's not going to happen. at this point, getting a deal at all. we are looking at just pushing back the sequester and maybe getting some of the middle class tax cuts the president campaigned on and in part won re-election on. we'll see what happens over the next few days. there is some political advantage to waiting to go off the fiscal cliff and coming bac
a missile defense program, a rudimentary program, but it's been in place, put it in place several years ago, and it's designed specifically to handle this. actually we're ahead on that. but they've been relentless bad boys. no matter how difficult their domestic situation is, they've always seemed to find the resources to military power and threatening neighbors and friends and trying to shift technology abroad. it's a rogue regime. it's difficult to deal with. and it adds a complicating factor into the dynamic equation in asia between china and japan and the south china sea and the united states. >> let's switch gears now and talk about senator kerry, who will likely be secretary of state coming up. and with regard to the israeli/palestinian situation, do you think he might have an approach that could come and get something palpable done over there? >> i think that's really a presidential call. when you're dealing with israeli/palestinian issue, it's the president of the united states who's going to make that call. and really in all foreign policy it is the president's prerogative. i think
is a confident president and a defensive republican caucus. the president, he won one on this issue as they tell you. the polling shows they will blame republicans. why should he cut what he considered a bad deal? republicans say the president s is -- has played -- overplayed his hand, and they think eventually people will want to keep the bush tax cuts. that assumes that noog bad happens in the economy, which they could both be blamed for. that's why we have the president flying back from hawaii. that's why we have republicans coming in on sunday even though neither side expects it to change any. the great line in this story, the talking bint it they have is the lines of communication remain open, but all are reporting that the lines of communication may remain open but they're not saying anything. they're negotiating out loud. it's like when you send an e-mail and put your boss on it or copy the whole office. you're not trying to persuade but make your point. >> i'll never do that. richard wolf, are you still awake down there. >> i am. i go to starbucks. >> let me ask you this unearned sense
to 6.2%. >> which is ridiculous because the bush tax cuts are set to expire. sequestration, defense cuts. if we do nothing these things take place. democrats have the upper hand in this argument. why can't this be part of the negotiations? up 'til now it hasn't been, this particular payroll tax holiday has been off the table in discussions. >> with all of that, let he us w how you feel about what the plan might be by the end of the year. >>> president obama and the first lady will attend a memorial service for the late senator of hawaii. hundreds of people gathered as the senator's body was returned to his native state. the memorial will be national memorial cemetery. the president is not expected to speak. he eulogized him friday calling his integrity and moral character inspiring. >>> she's one of the only survivors from the mall shooting and christina is speaking about the moment she came face-to-face with the gunman. >> i only saw him enough to see he was wearing black a mask and carrying a gun. i didn't realize it was a real gun. we have to cherish every moment because you neve
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